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Arts & Entertainment with Chris & Randall

May 29, 2020

A listener recently sent us an email about our PUNK ROCK show, episode 7. We liked the email so much that we spent this episode answering it.


Okay, so I just watched your punk rock podcast and now I can't find it to leave a message directly on the podcast.

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The first thing, can I get a link to your podcast so I can save it to my desktop?

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Second, I really enjoyed listening to your take on punk music and the ideology behind it.

[Thank you!]

I'm not sure that I totally agree with you starting in the late '70s in England as the beginning of punk music. I almost think you need to define what exactly is"punk" before you can truly pick a starting point. For me I define punk in kind of simple terms. One, is that the artist has to have attitude. and yes I understand that is open to interpretation. Two, The music has to be basically anti-establishment or trying to change the status quo. So when I put together a family tree where punk is at the top, and the branchs below it include all sorts of genres of music that one typically would not consider a punk subcategory. More along the lines of the term rock and roll, with subcategories or genres of black metal, hair metal, glam, and many more. So what are some potential other subcategories, reggae is a great example because it's full of attitude and it's a big middle finger to the man. So having said that, I was really intrigued by your looping and grunge music to the punk rock topic, however I totally disagree with calling grunge punk. There may be a lot of attitude as well as a major shift in pop culture, but there's nothing that I'm aware of that's very anti-establishment in grunge music.

Some out of the normal thinking artists that I would include in that punk category would be Iggy and the stooges along with Johnny Cash.

I would have liked to have seen you spend a little more time breaking down punk in the US after the sex pistols in the clash open things up in England

Starting out with the punk movement on the East coast with bad brains, or MC5. Then moving to the southern California punk scene with bad religion, the spent idols, and even Green day. And just for the record, I put the Ramones into new wave and not punk.

Some of my favorite punk bands... Obviously the sex pistols and the clash with the clash being one of my favorite bands of all time.

I'm a huge Bad Religion and Social D fan. But I do listen to a lot of NoFX, Dead Kennedys, Iggy and the stooges, bad brains, dropkick Murphys, rancid, the damned, teenage bottle rockets,